Eurolega 19/20 Dicembre

[massi8183]

Uscito Pinna con qualche quota.

I 34 Euro del Cska da sfava a Siena li prendo subito

CSKA ml @ 2.13
CSKA +1.5 @ 2.00
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Ciao a tutti

[Rag. Beata]

Ciao massi, bella quota perccato hanno concesso così poco.


Io sto aspettando ancora un pò ma penso di giocare il Real Madrid contro Roma sperando che la loro quota si alzi ancora un pò.
Real Madrid in netta ripresa dopo le vittorie in casa con l'Ulker e soprattutto in campionato contro i capoclassifica del Badalona (in trasferta).
Penso che non commetteranno lo stesso errore del Panathinaikos ovvero quello di giocare una gara completamente deconcentrati.

Anzi a questo proposito racconto un aneddoto divertente. Obradovic era talmente furioso della partita oscena che hanno giocato contro Roma che il giorno dopo, dopo essere rientrati ad Atene, ha organizzato una seduta mattutina di allenamento "di punizione" di 3 ore.

Sembra che i giocatori hanno recepito la lezione..... nell'ultima di campionato hanno vinto di quasi 40 punti in trasferta (anche con il Bamberg potrebbero passeggiare anche perchè l'approccio sarà  differente).

[massi8183]

Ciao Ragioniere

purtroppo era prevedibile che si buttassero a pesce sui Russi, da sfava io li gioco dovunque e contro chiunque , chiaramente con 68 euro si fa poca strada.

Caso mai a me sembra ancora buono il CSKA @ 2.00 da Eurobet.com (con il pareggio ai regolamentari si perde), purtroppo noi non possiamo approfittarne, ma magari chi può giocare con loro potrebbe essere interessato...sempre il solito book ha il Cska +1.5 @ 1.90.
Sembrano buone entrambi, non credo esca di meglio o marcino Siena.

Roma la passo sereno, non vorrei ripagarla un'altra volta, il Pana interessa anche me, ma aspetto e vedo se esce qualche book nostrano con magari handicap più leggero (non sarebbe la prima volta).

Ciao

[TheSaint1530]

spread eurolega e partite da solito book italiano....


19 dic 2007-mercoledì
19:45- Olympiacos(-15.5) - Union Olimpija
19:45-Prokom Trefl Sopot - Zalgiris(-4.5)
20:30-Montepaschi Siena - Cska Moscow
20:30-Armani Jeans Milano - Efes Pilsen
20:45-Brose Baskets - Panathinaikos(-11.5)
20:45-Partizan(-7.5) - Chorale Roanne

20 dic 2007-giovedì

18:15-Cibona - Unicaja
19:15-Fenerbahce Ulker - Axa Fc Barcelona(-4.5)
19:50-Maccabi Elite(-5.5) - Lietuvos Rytas
20:30-Vidivici Bologna - Tau Ceramica(-6.5)
20:30-Aris Tt Bank(-9.5) - Le Mans
20:30-Lottomatica Roma - Real Madrid

[psyduck]

il real alla pari a roma?

[TheSaint1530]

poca roba sullo spread: non capisco molto bene solo i 4.5 allo zalgiris; il prokom è una banda e i lituani sono veramente in ottima forma; per il resto preso con poco un triplino niente male: cska in m.l, e aseguire tanto per non farci mancare niente un pò di partizan, e ulker; il barà§a fuori non i piace proprio: per ora passo il real, ma credo che molto dipenderà  da roma, se gioca come nelle ultime due è partita da punto a punto (possibile live con determinate quote all'ingresso)

[TheSaint1530]

il real alla pari a roma?

al momento niente spread con un circa 1.90 su roma in m.l

[j.r.]

Preso un po' di Partizan -7.5 Totosi 1.82

[ALEXEEV]

Ciao massi, bella quota perccato hanno concesso così poco.


Io sto aspettando ancora un pò ma penso di giocare il Real Madrid contro Roma sperando che la loro quota si alzi ancora un pò.
Real Madrid in netta ripresa dopo le vittorie in casa con l'Ulker e soprattutto in campionato contro i capoclassifica del Badalona (in trasferta).
Penso che non commetteranno lo stesso errore del Panathinaikos ovvero quello di giocare una gara completamente deconcentrati.

Anzi a questo proposito racconto un aneddoto divertente. Obradovic era talmente furioso della partita oscena che hanno giocato contro Roma che il giorno dopo, dopo essere rientrati ad Atene, ha organizzato una seduta mattutina di allenamento "di punizione" di 3 ore.

Sembra che i giocatori hanno recepito la lezione..... nell'ultima di campionato hanno vinto di quasi 40 punti in trasferta (anche con il Bamberg potrebbero passeggiare anche perchè l'approccio sarà  differente).

Pensa che erano talmente incazzati per la sconfitta che l'unica loro preoccupazione venerdi mattina a Fiumicino e'stata quella di riuscire ad avere l'upgrade in business sul volo di ritorno per 25 persone poi

[uforab]

roma-atene in prima?

quant'è un ora ?

che schifo!!!

[TheSaint1530]

appena usciti gli spread non capivo perchè lo zalgiris, solo di 4.5 contro la banda polacca.......poi arriva una notiziuola da prokom:

From Euroleague.net

Polish champion Prokom Trefl Sopot inked guard Igor Milicic for the remainder of the season. Milicic (31, 196) previously played in Prokom during the 2001-02 season. He has also played in Poland with Anwil Wloclawek, with whom he won the Polish championship. The veteran guard began his career in his native Croatia where he played for Rijeka and Split. Other stops in his career include Iraklio Kreta (Greece), Tuborg Izmir (Turkey) and Dexia Mons (Belgium). Last season Milicic played for Turk Telekom, where ha averaged 4.2 points and 1.3 assists per game. He began this season in Russia with Enisey Krasnoyarsk, where he posted 9.7 points and 4.2 assists per game.


ora sinceramente una guardia come fà  a cambiare una squadra, un sistema, una mentalità  consolidata da un intero girone di subizione: lo zalgiris visto contro bologna può trarre in inganno (troppo brutta bologna), ma io continuo a vedere fava i lituani anche con quell'hnd

[TheSaint1530]

mi piaceva molto il partizan contro i francesi, ma anche qui ho trovato questa info: (da adriaticbasket.com)

Partizan against Roanne without its fans

The Serbian champ Partizan will have to play the next Euroleague's game at home in front of empty stands in the sport's hall Pionir according to the news from the club...

The decision came from the Euroleague which punished Partizan for the last game played at home when fans were throwing solid things on the court which is an automatic violation of the ULEB rules. The punishment refers to the game against Roanne scheduled for Wednesday, December 19th

il pubblico a belgrado è da sempre un fattore importante; il roanne non mi piace, anche se gode di una certa fisicità  ma troppo lunatico al tiro (ne prendono tanti, ne mettono pochi, forti a rimbalzo): magari l'hnd và  rivisto,così 7.5 rischiano di essere troppi e forse questa la passo

[TheSaint1530]

il tau invece presenta il seguente problema (da euroleague.com):

Tau's Igor Rakocevic, out 2-3 weeks with muscle injury

The consequences of the tough duel between Tau Ceramica and Olympiacos in Week 8 showed early after the showdown. On Thursday, the very same morning after the game, Tau Ceramica announced that guard Igor Rakocevic suffered an muscle injury on his right leg abductor and will be sidelined between two and three weeks. Rakocevic will therefore miss the next Tau game at Virtus VidiVici Bologna and will not be back in the Euroleague until 2008. If the recovery period goes as planned, Rakocevic may be able to re-appear against Prokom Trefl on January 3. So far, Rakocevic has played 8 Euroleague games this season with an average of 16.0 points, 2.1 rebounds and 1.9 assists. He ranks 12th among the best scorers this season.


bologna in questo momento è impresentabile, e secondo me anche senza rakocevic il tau e strafav contro la virtus: io lo ripeto e non gliela voglio tirare al buon pillastrini, ma sabatini tra i tanti tagli, rimborsi a tifosi insoddisfatti, lampade concentrate, un pensiero a silurare il tecnico, non ce lo fà ?.....secondome partita da imbarcata, e le quote lo dimostrano cmq io vedo solo il tau in tutte e tante salse..........

[TheSaint1530]

non credo di fare cosa gradita ma queste sono le preview nei match-up per le partite di eurolega di oggi e domani (da sito euroleague.net; grazie a bettingadvice.com per la sistemazione)

GROUP A

CSKA Moscow:
- Aleksey Savrasenko is expected to be out for 3 more weeks due to a shoulder injury.
- Matjaz Smodis is out indefinitely with an ankle injury.
- With Savrasenko and Smodis sidelined, David Andersen has averaged 17.7 points and 9.7 rebounds in the last three Euroleague games.
- Theo Papaloukas returned to action against Prokom, missed a Russian Cup game this weekend, but is scheduled to play against Montepaschi.


Tau Ceramica:
- Tau released forward Linton Johnson after the last Euroleague game.
- Igor Rakocevic is expected to be sidelined for at least 2 weeks due to a leg injury.
- James Singleton remains a long-term injury.
- Power forward Mirza Teletovic hurt an ankle in domestic play over the weekend but rejoined practices and is expected to play at Virtus Bologna.


Olympiacos:
- Giorgios Printezis missed the last Euroleague game with a foot injury but returned for Greek League action over the weekend.
- Loukas Mavrokefalidis is expected to be out again due to a knee injury, joining Lynn Greer in the injured list.
- Panagiotis Vassilopoulos is back in action and ready to face Union Olimpija.
- Roderick Blakney had 13 points and 6 steals in Olympiacos' road loss against Tau Ceramica last week.


Prokom:
- Center Tomas Van den Spiegel missed the last two Euroleague games but returned to action in the Polish League this weekend.
- Guard Christos Harissis and forward Tomas Masiulis did not play against CSKA Moscow but are back in action, too.
- Milan Gurovic is ready to face Zalgiris. He averaged 20.6 points in the first three Euroleague games and just 1.6 in his next three.
- Jovo Stanojevic has shined since he arrived in Sopot, averaging 12.8 points and 6.3 rebounds in 4 games.


Union Olimpija:
- Boris Gorenc was registered but he still has yet to make his Euroleague return with Olimpija.
- Chris Booker did not take part in his team's Adriatic League game and is questionable against Olympiacos.
- Center Mirza Begic is back in action and will travel to Greece to face the Reds.
- Goran Dragic had a Euroleague career-high of 22 points against Montepaschi last week.


Zalgiris:
- Zalgiris has no significant injuries for its game against Prokom Trefl Sopot.
- DeJuan Collins is second in the assists standings (5.25 apg.).
- Marcus Brown was the Weeks 7 and 8 top scorer with 27 and 31 points against Tau Ceramica and Virtus, respectively. He combined for 13-for-15 three-pointers in both wins.
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Montepaschi Siena:
- Montepaschi Siena has no significant injuries for its game against CSKA Moscow.
- Terrell McIntyre had 4 triples in the fourth quarter against Union Olimpija last week. He finished the game with 20 points.
- Rimantas Kaukenas had 21 points on 12-for-12 free throws, good for a 29 index against Olimpija.


VidiVici Bologna:
- Dewarick Spancer had 22 points in his team's 102-82 road loss against Zalgiris last week.
- Delonte Holland and Federico Lestini will not play against Tau Ceramica for disciplinary reasons and might be released, although the club still has them registered to play.
- Guilherme Giovannoni and Andrea Michelori missed an Italian League game last week but were back in action against Zalgiris.

GROUP B

Unicaja:
- Big man Daniel Santiago, the Week 7 MVP, will miss several weeks due to a muscle tear.
- Marcus Haislip is recovered from his knee injury and had 18 points and 6 rebounds against Aris TT Bank.
- German Gabriel has been playing consistently in the last two games after being on and off the team for two weeks.



Maccabi Elite:
- Maccabi Elite might still be without Nikola Vujcic, who is questionable against Lietuvos Rytas.
- Tal Burstein is set to miss the entire season with a knee injury.
- David Bluthenthal has been on fire in the last two games, averaging 20 points on 10-for-11 two-pointers and 6.5 rebounds.


Efes Pilsen:
- Drew Nicholas had 20 points against Cibona despite battling a hand injury.
- Andre Hutson shined in last week's win with 16 points and 8 rebounds, good for a 29 index.
- Rashad Wright made his Euroleage debut - 5 points, 4 rebounds - against Unicaja but did not play last week.
- Ermal Kuqo leads the Euroleague in points per minute (0.70).


Aris TT Bank:
- Giorgos Kalaitzis missed the game against Maccabi Elite but was back in action against Unicaja.
- Jeremiah Massey is battling a sprained ankle and did not practice on Monday. He is expected to face Le Mans.
- Reyshawn Terry had 16 points and 5 rebounds against this week's opponent, Le Mans, earlier in the season.


Cibona:
- Playmaker Tre Kelley is back in action, as he had 5 points and 5 turnovers against Efes Pilsen last week.
- As such, Damir Mulaomerovic will see less playing time from now on. He already played 15 minutes against Efes.
- Chris Warren had 16 points in his team's road loss in Istanbul while Sam Hoskin added 15.

Le Mans:
- Nebojsa Bogavac has missed his team's last three games. He is questionable for the game against Aris TT Bank.
- Nicolas Batum had a career-best Euroleague performance with 24 points on 10-for-10 shooting and 4 assists against Maccabi last week.
- Raviv Limonad had averaged 20.5 points on 13-for-16 two-pointers and 5 assists in the last two Euroleague games.


Lietuvos Rytas:
- Mindaugas Lukauskis is very questionable for the game against Maccabi. Roberts Stelmahers is out indefinitely
- Newcomer Jared Jordan already made his Euroleague debut last week, replacing Darrel Mitchell.
- Marijonas Petravicius, who averaged 17 points on 12-for-15 two-pointers in the last 2 games, has been sick this weekend but should be ready to face Maccabi.


Armani Jeans Milano:
- AJ Milano has no significant injuries for its game against Lietuvos Rytas.
- Danilo Gallinari had 16 points in Vilnius last week. He has scored in double digits in all 6 games.
- Travis Watson is second in the rebounders list, pulling down 9.5 boards per night.

GROUP C

Panathinaikos:
- Dejan Tomasevic and Fragiskos Alvertis will not travel to Germany due to respective back injuries.
- Sarunas Jasikevicius had 13 points against Lottomatica Roma last week while Mike Batiste added 10.
- Panathinaikos still has 14 players available, so rotations are expected.


AXA FC Barcelona:
- AXA FCB had 5 players in double digits in its home win against Partizan Igokea. Roger Grimau had a season-high 19 points.
- Barcelona has no significant injuries for its game against Fenerbahce Ulker.
- Mario Kasun has averaged 15 points on 17-for-26 two-pointers in the last 3 Euroleague games.


Partizan:
- Partizan Igokea has no significant injuries for its home game against Chorale Roanne.
- Nikola Pekovic was limited to just 7 points against Barcelona last week.
- Uros Tripkovic had 16 points in his team's road loss in Barcelona. Dejan Vorovnjak added 13.


Lottomatica Roma:
- Erik Daniels was suspended by the club, missed his team's last two games and is not on the roster for Real Madrid's visit to Rome.
- Allan Ray had 18 points in Lottomatica's win against Panathinaikos. Roko Ukic added 13 for Roma.
- Christian Drejer will be out for 2 more months due to a severe ankle injury.

Fenerbahce Ulker:
- Shooter Ibrahim Kutluay and big man Semih Erden are expected to miss at least one more game with respective injuries.
- Fenerbahce newcomer Omer Asik already had 7 points and 5 rebounds against Real Madrid.
- Rebounding ace Mirsad Turkcan needs just 12 rebounds to pull down his 1,000th board in Euroleague Basketball.
- Willie Solomon and Oguz Savas each had 16 points in their team's road loss against Madrid.



Real Madrid:
- Alex Mumbru returned to action in the Spanish League this weekend and is ready to face Lottomatica Roma.
- Venson Hamilton is once again questionable for the game in Roma.
- Felipe Reyes shined against Fenerbahce Ulker last week with 17 points and 6 rebounds.


Brose Baskets:
- Other than Sajmen Hauer, coach Dirk Bauermann had his full roster available for the game against Panathinaikos.
- Steffen Hamann had 24 points on 4-for-4 three-pointers in his team's road loss against Chorale Roanne.
- Predrag Suput had 16 points against Roanne and as many as 31 in a German League game this weekend.


Chorale Roanne Basket:
- Ron Hale returned to action this weekend, while Laurent Cazalon has missed Roanne's last three games due to an injury.
- Marc Antoine-Pellin is the Euroleague assists leader at 5.6 per game.
- Marc Salyers (22.8 ppg.) leads the Euroleague in scoring while Brion Rush (18.9 ppg.) is fifth.

[rosa]

presa puglia generosa su totosi MPS-CSKA OVER 150,5 a 1,82. Messo qcosa su MPS moneyline a 2 perke in casa quest anno penso ke tale quota non si riveda mai piu (se non in caso di quarti di finale eulega...)