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zik013 · Messaggioda **zik013** » 04/03/2004 - 17:07

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i have this already offered by my local book..

Panathinaikos - Modena 1.40 2.60 -6.5=>1.82 +6.5=>1.82 182.5 1.82 1.82

As i understand this Final 4 is in MODENA.. so Modena is actually at home.. looks like my bookie doesnt know this !!
anybody has any news ?? or thoughs ?

kondor5 · Messaggioda **kondor5** » 04/03/2004 - 20:49

modena this season isn't doing as good as past seasons, but is always a good team and in the last matches is doing better...i don't think that modena can win the italian league, so i think that it can think only to the cup...and as you said all the matches will be at home...so...

ps: sorry for my english, i hope you understood! :wink:

zik013 · Messaggioda **zik013** » 04/03/2004 - 22:40

thanks for your reply.. very much appreciated..
So, you can say generally that they are doing better lately ?? And especially at home ??
About Pao i know that they are 4th in Greece.. and in the team have one bulgarian,one polish and one czech.. rest are greeks

kondor5 · Messaggioda **kondor5** » 05/03/2004 - 00:54

last 5 modena's matches (the first is more recent):

modena - trentino 2-3 (trentino is 1st in regular season and modena in this match was 2-0)
trieste - modena 1-3 (trieste is the last team in regular season)
modena - treviso 3-1 (i think everybody knows treviso)
macerata - modena 2-3 (macerata is 2nd in regular season...)
modena - latina 1-3 (but is a very old match, 2 february)

i think it's no bad...

this is how the two teams are composed:

KERAKOLL MODENA
(numero, giocatore, nazionalità , ruolo, anno, altezza)

1 GELLI Massimo - (Ita) - centrale - 1978 - 200
2 MESCOLI Marcello - (Ita) - alzatore - 1972 - 193
3 FONTELES Luis Felipe - (Bra) - schiacciatore - 1984 - 196
5 COZZI Paolo - (Ita) - centrale - 1980 - 200
6 CERNIC Matej - (Ita) - schiacciatore - 1978 - 194
8 BALL Lloy - (Usa) - alzatore - 1972 - 203
10 CANTAGALLI Luca - (Ita) - schiacciatore - 1965 - 199
11 GIOMBINI Leondino - (Ita) - universale - 1975 - 205
12 PIPPI Damiano - (Ita) - libero - 1971 - 192
13 GIANI Andrea - (Ita) - universale - 1970 196
15 IAKOVLEV Roman - (Rus) - opposto - 1977 - 200
18 GUIMARAES Dante Amaral - (Bra) - schiacciatore - 1980 - 201

All.: Menarini Maurizio
Vice all.: Tubertini Lorenzo

PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS

1 PSARRAS Athanasios - (Gre) - alzatore - 1973 - 187
2 NTONAS Efstathios - (Gre) - schiacciatore - 1978 - 196
4 KARAGIANNIS Nikolas - (Gre) - universale - 1981 198
6 MUREK David - (Pol) - schiacciatore - 1977 - 196
7 STEFANOU Georgios - (Gre) - libero - 1981 - 185
8 CHATZIANNTONIOU Theodoros - (Gre) - centrale - 1974 - 204
10 KOUROUPIS Viktor - (Gre) - schiacciatore - 1976 - 190
11 LIVATHINOS Ioannis - (Gre) - alzatore - 1977 - 185
12 SMARAGDIS Nikolaos - (Gre) - universale - 1982 - 202
14 PANTALEON Sotirios - (Gre) - universale - 1980 - 203
15 PETROGLOU Petros - (Gre) - schiacciatore - 1979 - 200
17 KOSTANTINOV Plamen - (Bul) - schiacciatore - 1973 - 200

i don't think panathinaikos has great players...and if it is 4° in his league, there must be a reason...

Zik, could you tell me what book do you use? do you bet online?

zik013 · Messaggioda **zik013** » 05/03/2004 - 02:47

WOW.. thanks a lot. this was very very very helpfull info.
I use the local Ukrainian/Russian book Marathonbet.. it is know to made some mistakes from time to time

They wrote this line completely by themselves, and ahead of any other bookie.. it looks like they didnt realize that Modena plays at home here.
Another example of their mistake was the first game of Treviso - Tours, they were giving +12.5 on Tours, and Tours won +10 away :lol:

Messaggioda **heat** » 05/03/2004 - 02:53

Sorry for this OT.

Hi, Zik013, could You write a preview about spring part of Ukrainian Premier League?

Feel free to open a thread in East European section.

Thanks in advance.

If You can't, there is no problem :wink:

zik013 · Messaggioda **zik013** » 05/03/2004 - 14:32

heat ha scritto:Sorry for this OT.

Hi, Zik013, could You write a preview about spring part of Ukrainian Premier League?

Feel free to open a thread in East European section.

Thanks in advance.

If You can't, there is no problem

dont know about the preview... but
first game

SHAHTAR Donetsk - Metalurh Donetsk
bet all your money your house and wife, on SHAHTAR... they will win 1000%

zik013 · Messaggioda **zik013** » 05/03/2004 - 14:50

guys, one more question ..

this game will be in the stadium where Modena usually plays ?? or some different one ??

Messaggioda **heat** » 05/03/2004 - 14:54

zik013 ha scritto:
heat ha scritto:Sorry for this OT.

Hi, Zik013, could You write a preview about spring part of Ukrainian Premier League?

Feel free to open a thread in East European section.

Thanks in advance.

If You can't, there is no problem

dont know about the preview... but
first game

SHAHTAR Donetsk - Metalurh Donetsk
bet all your money your house and wife, on SHAHTAR... they will win 1000%

I do it every year

Just like Dynamo-Arsenal

:wink:

zik013 · Messaggioda **zik013** » 05/03/2004 - 15:03

NO

Dinamo Arsenal is never fixed !!! never... Dinamo has just superior players... I can tell u for sure... I love Dinamo to death, but was a member of Arsenal stuff, and can tell you that every Arsenal player was promised 20000$ in case of win vs Dinamo and 7k$ in case of draw...

kondor5 · Messaggioda **kondor5** » 05/03/2004 - 15:05

zik013 ha scritto:guys, one more question ..

this game will be in the stadium where Modena usually plays ?? or some different one ??

yes...the same, modena is not a big city as milano, so there is only one big "stadium"

zik013 · Messaggioda **zik013** » 05/03/2004 - 15:10

kondor5 ha scritto:
zik013 ha scritto:guys, one more question ..

this game will be in the stadium where Modena usually plays ?? or some different one ??

yes...the same, modena is not a big city as milano, so there is only one big "stadium"

too bad... My stupid bookie decided to cancell my bet on Modena +6.5 and instead have Modena -6.5 now.. as they claim Modena is now at home.. but i still have the valid argument as officially Pao are the HOST team...

Messaggioda **heat** » 05/03/2004 - 15:14

zik013 ha scritto:NO
Dinamo Arsenal is never fixed !!! never... Dinamo has just superior players... I can tell u for sure... I love Dinamo to death, but was a member of Arsenal stuff, and can tell you that every Arsenal player was promised 20000$ in case of win vs Dinamo and 7k$ in case of draw...

Ok, Dynamo is the best team in Ukraine; also team that I support in Your Championship.

I have a wrong information , no problem.

I also hope that Borisfen can be able to avoid relegation; some friends of mine here in Italy support Borisfen :wink:

Good luck and I Hope Shakthar doesn't win championship

We'll see

Messaggioda **Brandy** » 05/03/2004 - 16:52

x zik013

Hi,

could you please tell me if you know any other bookmaker worldwide that usually offers odds on international volleyball competion, such as European cups, European and World championship, World League and Gran Prix, Beach Volleyball Tour or any other?

I mean, if you know any other bookmakers but Gamebookers, Betandwin, Betsense, sometimes Eurobet, and your local (Marathonbet), that I already know.

Thanks a lot for your precious help,

Bernardo

P.S. are you ukrainian? I played with my female team, a lot of years ago (I think it was in 1997) in Cherkasy and in Odesa.....

zik013 · Messaggioda **zik013** » 05/03/2004 - 18:39

No sorry, i use only locals, they offer great odds on things they dont know much about

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