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CORSE IN PIANO UK - 2012
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Re: CORSE IN PIANO UK - 2012
altro primo di axell chapeux
Re: CORSE IN PIANO UK - 2012
vince il grande so you think ...........ma impressiona il godolphin che complice una monta tragica di franky riparte da fermo e finisce al doppio ..
La prova che nell’universo esistono altre forme di vita intelligente è che non ci hanno ancora contattato.
(Bill Watterson)
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Re: CORSE IN PIANO UK - 2012
vince il grande so you think ...........ma impressiona il godolphin che complice una monta tragica di franky riparte da fermo e finisce al doppio ..
La prova che nell’universo esistono altre forme di vita intelligente è che non ci hanno ancora contattato.
(Bill Watterson)
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eh si, a strada libera Farhh avrebbe potuto lottare per la vittoria...invece tra un po nemmeno si piazza 
rammarico..
rammarico..
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ROYAL ASCOT 3.05 – Ribblesdale Stakes 12F
This is not a race that is that strong on trends but unsurprisingly a good run in the Oaks last time out has pointed the way to the winner of this race on many occasions – in this year’s field of 14, there are six horses that competed at Epsom and although the winner Was is missing, the second, third and fourth resume battle along with a couple of interesting contenders in Momentary, who beat Oaks second Shirocco Star at Newbury and Princess Highway winner of a maiden and Group 2 in Ireland this year.
The obvious place to start is with The Fugue who by common consent was the unluckiest horse in the Oaks, although I would have to point out that the run of Hughie Morrison’s Coquet was more unfortunate in that same race. Plenty of the earlier trouble that John Gosden’s filly found in the Oaks was down to her and the moderate pace that ensued and to be honest we could be in the same scenario here with no natural front runner and only a couple that have been prominent in their races. The Fugue was far better suited by the faster/more consistent pace that was set in the Musidora and that remains the victory that defines her this year after finishing fourth in the 1,000 Guineas on her seasonal reappearance.
Let’s look at the second and fourth from the Oaks next – the runner-up was Shirocco Star who has been touched off in both of her races this year after moving smoothly into them. The first of those was the Newbury Oaks Trial where Momentary beat her (that filly re-opposes here) and then the Oaks itself where she just failed to get up. Her smooth travelling style is always eye-catching but she is drawn on the wide outside here and one suspects that she will be dropped out and have to come round/through the entire field here. Fourth in the Oaks was Vow who although ridden close to the pace in that race, it was steadily run and the run didn’t make the most of her undoubted stamina and a test of speed over the last 2F was not what she wanted. With that lack of pace again likely here it would be ideal if she was ridden in a more prominent fashion otherwise we could see a similar situation develop.
To complete the picture of those that ran in the Oaks we should mention Kailani who although she was unlikely to have a problem over the trip was ridden in restrained fashion and looked to be hating both the track and the quick ground – the track may well be more conventional here but the ground could still be quick enough for her. Twirl was disappointing and has a lot to do with all the other Oaks runners. Colima completes the sextet who ran at Epsom her profile coming into the Oaks was almost identical to the stable ́s 2008 Oaks-winner Look Here, in that she had won her only start at two and finished runner-up in the Lingfield Oaks Trial (behind Vow) on her return, albeit on Polytrack. She appeared to hold a good position throughout, so it was disappointing that she found so little off the bridle. Perhaps the quick ground found her out.
There are three non –Oaks combatants that are thrown into the mix to make this a deep race and one that will pay to watch. Momentary as stated has only ever run twice and pulled off a shock win at Newbury when beating Shirocco Star. She was well to the fore that day and in the first two throughout and it may be hard to execute those tactics from a wide draw, there’s no doubt she’s tough but there remains a nagging suspicion that she will be found wanting here at this level without the experience of some of her rivals. The Irish filly Princess Highway is a progressive sort and she has had this race as her target since winning a Group 3 race at Naas and remember her dam Irresistible Jewel won this in 2002 for trainer Dermot Weld. The form itself is difficult to have a firm view on but you have to think that there is plenty left to work on and Princess Highway could be the dark one in the race to concentrate on.
Finally the once-raced Pink Damsel is a fascinating contender – she was well backed on her debut at Newmarket and overcame a tardy start to commit for home from a long way out and held on well – she should see out even longer trips in the future and didn’t seem to be doing a lot in front on her solitary outing. She’ll have to cope with in experience here but adds some more spice to a complex race.
PACE MAP
FRONT RUNNER:
PROMINENT: TWIRL, INCHINA
CHASE LEADERS: DINVAR DIVA
TRACK LEADERS: COLIMA, HAZEL LAVERY, MOMENTARY, PRINCESS HIGHWAY, VOW
MIDFIELD: THE FUGUE, SALFORD ART
HELD UP: CHELA THRILLER, SHIROCCO STAR, PINK DAMSEL, KAILANI
BETTING ANGLE
Plenty to get stuck into here as you can judge from the meaty analysis of the runners and there are a number of ways to get involved. To my mind The Fugue is plenty short enough at under 2/1 and in a race where a strong pace is not guaranteed she may well get into trouble again. If you are going to back her it may well be ideal to wait until the early stages so that you can check what the gallop is like as I have a feeling off of a slow pace she may find some trouble again. I’ll be being brave and laying her at under 3.0 and looking to back her back at anything above 5.0 which is a price I feel she could hit IR off of a slow pace.
The Oaks as a race could clearly hold the key here but conditions are not ideal for any of the other runners who took part in that race – Shirocco Star is a horse who travels well in her race but she has a wide draw here and will have to settle and come with a late run and that could cause traffic problems here. Vow needs to be ridden more prominently than she was in the Oaks to make the most of her stamina and that could leave her vulnerable to anything with a turn of foot but it does give her a better chance of winning than the ride she got in the Oaks.
If the play on The Fugue is not your cup of tea then I would point you in the direction of a back-to-lay selection in the shape of the Irish filly Princess Highway, although she has yet to be tested at this level she is clearly thriving this year winning a competitive maiden before landing that Group 3 race at Naas where the Oaks winner – Was – was third, this requires another step up and she could have done with a single figure draw but she looks progressive so at around 8.0 she would be a play for me whilst looking at exit points of 3.5 (for my stakes) and 1.81 (for extra insurance) in a race which could well be a rough one due to the lack of early pace unless some of the combatants completely change their style of running.
This is not a race that is that strong on trends but unsurprisingly a good run in the Oaks last time out has pointed the way to the winner of this race on many occasions – in this year’s field of 14, there are six horses that competed at Epsom and although the winner Was is missing, the second, third and fourth resume battle along with a couple of interesting contenders in Momentary, who beat Oaks second Shirocco Star at Newbury and Princess Highway winner of a maiden and Group 2 in Ireland this year.
The obvious place to start is with The Fugue who by common consent was the unluckiest horse in the Oaks, although I would have to point out that the run of Hughie Morrison’s Coquet was more unfortunate in that same race. Plenty of the earlier trouble that John Gosden’s filly found in the Oaks was down to her and the moderate pace that ensued and to be honest we could be in the same scenario here with no natural front runner and only a couple that have been prominent in their races. The Fugue was far better suited by the faster/more consistent pace that was set in the Musidora and that remains the victory that defines her this year after finishing fourth in the 1,000 Guineas on her seasonal reappearance.
Let’s look at the second and fourth from the Oaks next – the runner-up was Shirocco Star who has been touched off in both of her races this year after moving smoothly into them. The first of those was the Newbury Oaks Trial where Momentary beat her (that filly re-opposes here) and then the Oaks itself where she just failed to get up. Her smooth travelling style is always eye-catching but she is drawn on the wide outside here and one suspects that she will be dropped out and have to come round/through the entire field here. Fourth in the Oaks was Vow who although ridden close to the pace in that race, it was steadily run and the run didn’t make the most of her undoubted stamina and a test of speed over the last 2F was not what she wanted. With that lack of pace again likely here it would be ideal if she was ridden in a more prominent fashion otherwise we could see a similar situation develop.
To complete the picture of those that ran in the Oaks we should mention Kailani who although she was unlikely to have a problem over the trip was ridden in restrained fashion and looked to be hating both the track and the quick ground – the track may well be more conventional here but the ground could still be quick enough for her. Twirl was disappointing and has a lot to do with all the other Oaks runners. Colima completes the sextet who ran at Epsom her profile coming into the Oaks was almost identical to the stable ́s 2008 Oaks-winner Look Here, in that she had won her only start at two and finished runner-up in the Lingfield Oaks Trial (behind Vow) on her return, albeit on Polytrack. She appeared to hold a good position throughout, so it was disappointing that she found so little off the bridle. Perhaps the quick ground found her out.
There are three non –Oaks combatants that are thrown into the mix to make this a deep race and one that will pay to watch. Momentary as stated has only ever run twice and pulled off a shock win at Newbury when beating Shirocco Star. She was well to the fore that day and in the first two throughout and it may be hard to execute those tactics from a wide draw, there’s no doubt she’s tough but there remains a nagging suspicion that she will be found wanting here at this level without the experience of some of her rivals. The Irish filly Princess Highway is a progressive sort and she has had this race as her target since winning a Group 3 race at Naas and remember her dam Irresistible Jewel won this in 2002 for trainer Dermot Weld. The form itself is difficult to have a firm view on but you have to think that there is plenty left to work on and Princess Highway could be the dark one in the race to concentrate on.
Finally the once-raced Pink Damsel is a fascinating contender – she was well backed on her debut at Newmarket and overcame a tardy start to commit for home from a long way out and held on well – she should see out even longer trips in the future and didn’t seem to be doing a lot in front on her solitary outing. She’ll have to cope with in experience here but adds some more spice to a complex race.
PACE MAP
FRONT RUNNER:
PROMINENT: TWIRL, INCHINA
CHASE LEADERS: DINVAR DIVA
TRACK LEADERS: COLIMA, HAZEL LAVERY, MOMENTARY, PRINCESS HIGHWAY, VOW
MIDFIELD: THE FUGUE, SALFORD ART
HELD UP: CHELA THRILLER, SHIROCCO STAR, PINK DAMSEL, KAILANI
BETTING ANGLE
Plenty to get stuck into here as you can judge from the meaty analysis of the runners and there are a number of ways to get involved. To my mind The Fugue is plenty short enough at under 2/1 and in a race where a strong pace is not guaranteed she may well get into trouble again. If you are going to back her it may well be ideal to wait until the early stages so that you can check what the gallop is like as I have a feeling off of a slow pace she may find some trouble again. I’ll be being brave and laying her at under 3.0 and looking to back her back at anything above 5.0 which is a price I feel she could hit IR off of a slow pace.
The Oaks as a race could clearly hold the key here but conditions are not ideal for any of the other runners who took part in that race – Shirocco Star is a horse who travels well in her race but she has a wide draw here and will have to settle and come with a late run and that could cause traffic problems here. Vow needs to be ridden more prominently than she was in the Oaks to make the most of her stamina and that could leave her vulnerable to anything with a turn of foot but it does give her a better chance of winning than the ride she got in the Oaks.
If the play on The Fugue is not your cup of tea then I would point you in the direction of a back-to-lay selection in the shape of the Irish filly Princess Highway, although she has yet to be tested at this level she is clearly thriving this year winning a competitive maiden before landing that Group 3 race at Naas where the Oaks winner – Was – was third, this requires another step up and she could have done with a single figure draw but she looks progressive so at around 8.0 she would be a play for me whilst looking at exit points of 3.5 (for my stakes) and 1.81 (for extra insurance) in a race which could well be a rough one due to the lack of early pace unless some of the combatants completely change their style of running.
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ROYAL ASCOT 3.45 – Gold Cup 20F
A small but relatively select field for the Gold Cup and once again the Irish have a strong
representation in the shape of Fame And Glory and Saddlers Rock, the statistics are skewed by the victories of Yates but they have won this race for the last six years and last year Fame And Glory was the one to retain the prize for them and he returns this year to defend his crown and his unbeaten record at Ascot. Since his victory in last year’s event his form is of a chequered appearance but he seems to be a horse that gets it done on the big days such as when scoring at Ascot for the second time last year in the British Champions Long Distance Cup when he had Opinion Poll, Colour Vision and Nehaam all behind him.
Fame And Glory is clearly a very smart stayer but he’s not completely bombproof and although he has won over this extreme test it may well be that it was his superior class got him through last year, although it must be said that on both of his runs at Ascot he has travelled very smoothly and comfortably close to the pace and a similar scenario could well pan out this time.
So what of the challengers, well Opinion Poll has seen the backside of Fame And Glory twice now and despite not having his stamina being in question for the 2M 4F test he can’t match Fame And Glory for pace and there is no reason to think that he can reverse the form now – his only hope is that if the forecast rain arrives and turns the going very soft, thus bringing undoubted stamina more into play.
If there is a horse that can match the favourites speed in the line-up then it is probably the other Goldolphin representative Colour Vision who I feel is going to be one of those horses who will get better and better this year. Trained by Mark Johnson last year he followed up his Cesarewitch third with an similar placing behind Fame And Glory and Opinion Poll here at Ascot over 2M on Champions’ Day. On that occasion he didn’t get the clearest of runs and powered home even suggesting that he may well have won over a longer trip or with a clearer passage. On his reappearance at Kempton’s polytrack he decimated the opposition running all over a horse like Red Cadeaux – subsequently a winner of the Yorkshire Cup and Coronation Cup second. Colour Vision was ridden differently that day and held-up after being steadied at the start and then going through the gears to win easily. That race showed that he had a decent cruising speed and it will be interesting to see if they ride him more prominently this time and keep tabs on Fame And Glory and he may just have the superior stamina.
Saddler’s Rock is the only other realistic contender he came to prominence last season and showed that stamina was his strong suit when winning the Doncaster Cup over 2M 2F – beating Opinion Poll. However it did take him an age to assert his authority on that occasion and he could be just short of that bit of tactical speed that you need around Ascot to keep tabs on horses like Fame And Glory and Colour Vision – he won’t have the long Doncaster straight to get rolling up this time. His reappearance at Leopardstown was on ground that he hated (heavy) so he could be forgiven for getting beaten there especially over a trip that is too short for him 1M 6F, however the fact remains that he will only get moving late this time and a few of the quicker types could be gone by then.
PACE MAP
FRONT RUNNER: GULF OF NAPLES
PROMINENT:
CHASE LEADERS: COLOUR VISION (held-up last time out)
TRACK LEADERS: BRIDGE OF GOLD, FAME AND GLORY, CAUCUS
MIDFIELD:
HELD UP: ASKAR TAU (can be slow to stride), NEHAAM, OPINION POLL, SADDLERS ROCK
BETTING ANGLE
If Fame And Glory runs up to his best at Ascot he’ll be cruising along serenely and I don’t envisage much movement in his price – that’s been the case in the majority of his runs where conditions are in his favour as they are today and he looks from the pace map to have an ideal run through the race and I don’t expect to see much change in his price until the closing stages.
Saddlers Rock would be very much one that if you are going to back him it would be best left to in- running as in all of his three wins he has traded well above his SP and hit a high of 36.0 when winning at Doncaster – if he were to win here it would not surprise me to see him hit similar figures especially as Fame And Glory and Colour Vision are likely to be ridden far more prominently than Saddler’s Rock.
Opinion Poll is solid but plenty of these have beaten him and I’ll be looking to have an interest in Colour Vision who could be the real improver in the race and the one horse who looks to have the same cruising speed as Fame And Glory, given those characteristics he could well shorten in price especially if he reverts to a more prominent style of running this time. I’d be looking to back Colour
Vision at any prices over 6.0 with saving trades at 3.05 and 1.71.
A small but relatively select field for the Gold Cup and once again the Irish have a strong
representation in the shape of Fame And Glory and Saddlers Rock, the statistics are skewed by the victories of Yates but they have won this race for the last six years and last year Fame And Glory was the one to retain the prize for them and he returns this year to defend his crown and his unbeaten record at Ascot. Since his victory in last year’s event his form is of a chequered appearance but he seems to be a horse that gets it done on the big days such as when scoring at Ascot for the second time last year in the British Champions Long Distance Cup when he had Opinion Poll, Colour Vision and Nehaam all behind him.
Fame And Glory is clearly a very smart stayer but he’s not completely bombproof and although he has won over this extreme test it may well be that it was his superior class got him through last year, although it must be said that on both of his runs at Ascot he has travelled very smoothly and comfortably close to the pace and a similar scenario could well pan out this time.
So what of the challengers, well Opinion Poll has seen the backside of Fame And Glory twice now and despite not having his stamina being in question for the 2M 4F test he can’t match Fame And Glory for pace and there is no reason to think that he can reverse the form now – his only hope is that if the forecast rain arrives and turns the going very soft, thus bringing undoubted stamina more into play.
If there is a horse that can match the favourites speed in the line-up then it is probably the other Goldolphin representative Colour Vision who I feel is going to be one of those horses who will get better and better this year. Trained by Mark Johnson last year he followed up his Cesarewitch third with an similar placing behind Fame And Glory and Opinion Poll here at Ascot over 2M on Champions’ Day. On that occasion he didn’t get the clearest of runs and powered home even suggesting that he may well have won over a longer trip or with a clearer passage. On his reappearance at Kempton’s polytrack he decimated the opposition running all over a horse like Red Cadeaux – subsequently a winner of the Yorkshire Cup and Coronation Cup second. Colour Vision was ridden differently that day and held-up after being steadied at the start and then going through the gears to win easily. That race showed that he had a decent cruising speed and it will be interesting to see if they ride him more prominently this time and keep tabs on Fame And Glory and he may just have the superior stamina.
Saddler’s Rock is the only other realistic contender he came to prominence last season and showed that stamina was his strong suit when winning the Doncaster Cup over 2M 2F – beating Opinion Poll. However it did take him an age to assert his authority on that occasion and he could be just short of that bit of tactical speed that you need around Ascot to keep tabs on horses like Fame And Glory and Colour Vision – he won’t have the long Doncaster straight to get rolling up this time. His reappearance at Leopardstown was on ground that he hated (heavy) so he could be forgiven for getting beaten there especially over a trip that is too short for him 1M 6F, however the fact remains that he will only get moving late this time and a few of the quicker types could be gone by then.
PACE MAP
FRONT RUNNER: GULF OF NAPLES
PROMINENT:
CHASE LEADERS: COLOUR VISION (held-up last time out)
TRACK LEADERS: BRIDGE OF GOLD, FAME AND GLORY, CAUCUS
MIDFIELD:
HELD UP: ASKAR TAU (can be slow to stride), NEHAAM, OPINION POLL, SADDLERS ROCK
BETTING ANGLE
If Fame And Glory runs up to his best at Ascot he’ll be cruising along serenely and I don’t envisage much movement in his price – that’s been the case in the majority of his runs where conditions are in his favour as they are today and he looks from the pace map to have an ideal run through the race and I don’t expect to see much change in his price until the closing stages.
Saddlers Rock would be very much one that if you are going to back him it would be best left to in- running as in all of his three wins he has traded well above his SP and hit a high of 36.0 when winning at Doncaster – if he were to win here it would not surprise me to see him hit similar figures especially as Fame And Glory and Colour Vision are likely to be ridden far more prominently than Saddler’s Rock.
Opinion Poll is solid but plenty of these have beaten him and I’ll be looking to have an interest in Colour Vision who could be the real improver in the race and the one horse who looks to have the same cruising speed as Fame And Glory, given those characteristics he could well shorten in price especially if he reverts to a more prominent style of running this time. I’d be looking to back Colour
Vision at any prices over 6.0 with saving trades at 3.05 and 1.71.
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ROYAL ASCOT 5.00 – Tercentenary Stakes 10F
Previously run over 1m4f, the Hampton Court Stakes as the race used to be known was upgraded from Listed status to Group 3 last year having been a 1m2f handicap since 2000 so only patterns from the turn of the century are of interest. Usually this is a race full of progressive three-year-olds from the top stables and that appears to be the case again this year and a good runs last time out has generally pointed the way to the winner - eight of the last 12 winners notched up a top-three finish last time out.
As I write the betting looks wide open and there are plenty of contenders to head the market with the most likely being either of the lightly raced pair Tales Of Grimm or Mukhadram. Tales Of Grimm hails from the Stoute yard and has only raced twice over shorter trips and one suspects that he will be much better for the step up in trip after finishing well over 1M at Sandown last time out, where Stipulate was just one place ahead of him. There are one or two who have a little more experience than him here but he should continue with his progression. On a similar path is Mukhadram who after getting beaten in the Wood Ditton when favourite easily justified short-priced favouratism last time out also at Newmarket over 1M, so he is another who is stepping up in trip but his trainer William Haggas has had this race in mind for some while and he looks well equipped to make the step up in grade.
Wrotham Heath and Grandeur are old adversaries from a handicap on Derby Day – on that occasion Wrotham Heath came out on top and he was well suited by the way the race was run with a good pace to aim at, he’s a horse that has travelled noticeably well throughout the majority of his races although he can be a little keen early and a good pace will help to see him settle. Grandeur gets a 6lb pull in the weights with Wrotham Heath although to my mind the winner won a shade cosily at Epsom and may well be able to confirm the form here – like Wrotham Heath Grandeur can take a strong hold and be keen in his races so watch for those signs early in the race although from a draw in six he should be nicely tucked in and covered up which will help him to relax and settle. Starboard another Khalid Abdulla runner (he has three in the race so watch the colours if you are playing IR) still has an Eclipse entry and is highly rated by his trainer John Gosden, beaten on his reappearance this year by Fort Bastion where he was tapped for toe in a small field he was much better suited by the 10F trip last time out at Doncaster - always on the shoulder of the leader, his attitude when asked to go to win his race was impressive, as he had to dig deep to get on top of the third horse and then withstand the runner-up, he will have learnt a lot from that race and he would be a dangerous one to lay IR at big prices.
Stipulate has the look of being the Cecil second string and this trip will help stretch him out as will the likely better ground, but it looks as though a few will improve past him here. Rewarded steps up from handicap company but he looks held by Starboard if a line through Expense Claim can be believed.
PACE MAP
FRONT RUNNER: CRIUS
PROMINENT: GOLDONI
CHASE LEADERS: CAVALEIRO
TRACK LEADERS: MUKHADRAM, STARBOARD, STIPULATE
MIDFIELD: REWARDED, WROTHAM HEATH (keen early)
HELD UP: ENERGISER, GRANDEUR (keen hold), TALES OF GRIMM
BETTING ANGLE
Plenty of these are going to improve through the season and come on from their limited runs that they have had so far. Getting a handle on their IR traits from so few runs is difficult but there are a couple of horses that I’m keen to exploit.
The first would be on Mukhadram who has looked a horse of real potential in his two races so far and travels really well, both of his maiden races have been working out well and he could be well placed throughout this race to strike on turning for home having been positioned just behind the pace. His price of around 7.0 plus will give plenty of back-to-lay elasticity and he will be a play in this race, with exit points of 3.05 and 1.81.
Wrotham Heath is a horse that will need to settle and a wide draw also sees him need to tuck in early but I do feel that he may be worth taking a chance with early in the race especially as his track position and that of the other leading contenders may well see him trade at a few points bigger than his SP. I’ll be looking to get with him at 2-3 points bigger than his SP early in the race with lays placed at half the obtained odds to cover the stakes and further lays at 2.52 and 1.71 just in case his early exertions take their toll.
One other point to mention is that if you are looking at laying Starboard IR at fancy prices, be careful as he has shown a very willing attitude in his races so far and could well battle back having traded at big prices – personally I think he will be better over even further than this 10F but he’s one of those horses who is dangerous to write off in the run.
Previously run over 1m4f, the Hampton Court Stakes as the race used to be known was upgraded from Listed status to Group 3 last year having been a 1m2f handicap since 2000 so only patterns from the turn of the century are of interest. Usually this is a race full of progressive three-year-olds from the top stables and that appears to be the case again this year and a good runs last time out has generally pointed the way to the winner - eight of the last 12 winners notched up a top-three finish last time out.
As I write the betting looks wide open and there are plenty of contenders to head the market with the most likely being either of the lightly raced pair Tales Of Grimm or Mukhadram. Tales Of Grimm hails from the Stoute yard and has only raced twice over shorter trips and one suspects that he will be much better for the step up in trip after finishing well over 1M at Sandown last time out, where Stipulate was just one place ahead of him. There are one or two who have a little more experience than him here but he should continue with his progression. On a similar path is Mukhadram who after getting beaten in the Wood Ditton when favourite easily justified short-priced favouratism last time out also at Newmarket over 1M, so he is another who is stepping up in trip but his trainer William Haggas has had this race in mind for some while and he looks well equipped to make the step up in grade.
Wrotham Heath and Grandeur are old adversaries from a handicap on Derby Day – on that occasion Wrotham Heath came out on top and he was well suited by the way the race was run with a good pace to aim at, he’s a horse that has travelled noticeably well throughout the majority of his races although he can be a little keen early and a good pace will help to see him settle. Grandeur gets a 6lb pull in the weights with Wrotham Heath although to my mind the winner won a shade cosily at Epsom and may well be able to confirm the form here – like Wrotham Heath Grandeur can take a strong hold and be keen in his races so watch for those signs early in the race although from a draw in six he should be nicely tucked in and covered up which will help him to relax and settle. Starboard another Khalid Abdulla runner (he has three in the race so watch the colours if you are playing IR) still has an Eclipse entry and is highly rated by his trainer John Gosden, beaten on his reappearance this year by Fort Bastion where he was tapped for toe in a small field he was much better suited by the 10F trip last time out at Doncaster - always on the shoulder of the leader, his attitude when asked to go to win his race was impressive, as he had to dig deep to get on top of the third horse and then withstand the runner-up, he will have learnt a lot from that race and he would be a dangerous one to lay IR at big prices.
Stipulate has the look of being the Cecil second string and this trip will help stretch him out as will the likely better ground, but it looks as though a few will improve past him here. Rewarded steps up from handicap company but he looks held by Starboard if a line through Expense Claim can be believed.
PACE MAP
FRONT RUNNER: CRIUS
PROMINENT: GOLDONI
CHASE LEADERS: CAVALEIRO
TRACK LEADERS: MUKHADRAM, STARBOARD, STIPULATE
MIDFIELD: REWARDED, WROTHAM HEATH (keen early)
HELD UP: ENERGISER, GRANDEUR (keen hold), TALES OF GRIMM
BETTING ANGLE
Plenty of these are going to improve through the season and come on from their limited runs that they have had so far. Getting a handle on their IR traits from so few runs is difficult but there are a couple of horses that I’m keen to exploit.
The first would be on Mukhadram who has looked a horse of real potential in his two races so far and travels really well, both of his maiden races have been working out well and he could be well placed throughout this race to strike on turning for home having been positioned just behind the pace. His price of around 7.0 plus will give plenty of back-to-lay elasticity and he will be a play in this race, with exit points of 3.05 and 1.81.
Wrotham Heath is a horse that will need to settle and a wide draw also sees him need to tuck in early but I do feel that he may be worth taking a chance with early in the race especially as his track position and that of the other leading contenders may well see him trade at a few points bigger than his SP. I’ll be looking to get with him at 2-3 points bigger than his SP early in the race with lays placed at half the obtained odds to cover the stakes and further lays at 2.52 and 1.71 just in case his early exertions take their toll.
One other point to mention is that if you are looking at laying Starboard IR at fancy prices, be careful as he has shown a very willing attitude in his races so far and could well battle back having traded at big prices – personally I think he will be better over even further than this 10F but he’s one of those horses who is dangerous to write off in the run.
Re: CORSE IN PIANO UK - 2012
Ascot
15.30 Gale Force Ten v/p
16.05 Momentary p
16.45 Fame And Glory v
17.25 Mississippi v/p
18.35 Fennell Bay v/p
Nella prima vado con O'Brien,il cavallo ha vinto l'ultima a Curragh,il favorito Cay Verde fa paura ma Gale Force Ten per me se la gioca,Momentary lo preferisco a Vow alle 16.05,ancora O'Brien con Fame and Glory nella Gold Cup, ma come si fa a puntare un cavallo vincente a @2 ?,non si puo'... giusto un cip per vedere la corsa,alle 17.25 e 18.35 gare lotteria,qui ho preso 2 che mi piacciono sopratutto Fennel Bay
15.30 Gale Force Ten v/p
16.05 Momentary p
16.45 Fame And Glory v
17.25 Mississippi v/p
18.35 Fennell Bay v/p
Nella prima vado con O'Brien,il cavallo ha vinto l'ultima a Curragh,il favorito Cay Verde fa paura ma Gale Force Ten per me se la gioca,Momentary lo preferisco a Vow alle 16.05,ancora O'Brien con Fame and Glory nella Gold Cup, ma come si fa a puntare un cavallo vincente a @2 ?,non si puo'... giusto un cip per vedere la corsa,alle 17.25 e 18.35 gare lotteria,qui ho preso 2 che mi piacciono sopratutto Fennel Bay
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Re: CORSE IN PIANO UK - 2012
non mai preso ad ascot fino ad oggi 
ma ho tempo fino a sabato 
tra vari dubbi e ripensamenti per ora ho deciso opinion poll piazzato e Princess Highway
w/p
ma ho tempo fino a sabato tra vari dubbi e ripensamenti per ora ho deciso opinion poll piazzato e Princess Highway
w/p
Re: CORSE IN PIANO UK - 2012
occhio al terreno adesso "good to soft"
Norfolk Stakes: CAY VERDE @ 3/1
Ribblesdale Stakes: PRINCESS HIGHWAY @ 13/2 & MOMENTARY @ 10/1 (dutch w)
Gold Cup: OPINION POLL @ 6/1
Britannia Stakes: PRINCE ALZAIN @ 16/1
Tercentenary Stakes: ENERGIZER @ 9/1
King George V Stakes: NICHOLASCOPERNICUS @ 6/1
Norfolk Stakes: CAY VERDE @ 3/1
Ribblesdale Stakes: PRINCESS HIGHWAY @ 13/2 & MOMENTARY @ 10/1 (dutch w)
Gold Cup: OPINION POLL @ 6/1
Britannia Stakes: PRINCE ALZAIN @ 16/1
Tercentenary Stakes: ENERGIZER @ 9/1
King George V Stakes: NICHOLASCOPERNICUS @ 6/1
Re: CORSE IN PIANO UK - 2012
A 5 minuti dall'inizio della Gold Cup ho deciso che bancherò fermamente Fame and Glory
Good to soft tendente al soft che non lo aiuterà di certo, anzi..
Una sola corsa quest'anno vinta cosi cosi a dir poco
I due Godolphin molto buoni e Saddler's Rock mi sembrano un'ottima concorrenza
Si banca a 1.9 lordi, mi sembra ottimo..
Good to soft tendente al soft che non lo aiuterà di certo, anzi..
Una sola corsa quest'anno vinta cosi cosi a dir poco
I due Godolphin molto buoni e Saddler's Rock mi sembrano un'ottima concorrenza
Si banca a 1.9 lordi, mi sembra ottimo..
Re: CORSE IN PIANO UK - 2012
Vi ho dato anche la trio, mica male
Re: CORSE IN PIANO UK - 2012
glory glory for frankie dettori 
anche se ho perso dal compagno di scuderia non riesco a non essere felice per Frankie..
questa l'ha vinta Lanfranco pochi caxxi, a monte invertite vince Opinion Poll
Fame and Glory credo a disagio sul terreno
anche se ho perso dal compagno di scuderia non riesco a non essere felice per Frankie..
questa l'ha vinta Lanfranco pochi caxxi, a monte invertite vince Opinion Poll
Fame and Glory credo a disagio sul terreno
Re: CORSE IN PIANO UK - 2012
secondo il mio modesto parere fame and glory paga una monta così così.
comunque grande il riscatto del campione dopo le critiche di ieri , una monta immensa e di gran cuore.,
per barzalona un voto basso.
comunque grande il riscatto del campione dopo le critiche di ieri , una monta immensa e di gran cuore.,
per barzalona un voto basso.
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(Bill Watterson)
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Re: CORSE IN PIANO UK - 2012
gli ha dato anche un paio di "sportellate" mica da nulla
va bhè, andiamo avanti
va bhè, andiamo avanti
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